Hanselminutes Podcast 254 - ASP.NET Web Forms - Reports of my Death of been exaggerated, with Damian Edwards

February 22, 2011 Comment on this post [15] Posted in ASP.NET | Podcast

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February 22, 2011 9:24

Excelent! Just downloading it now, I'm eager to see what finally made it to HTML5!

Rosendo Alejandro Lopez Robles

February 23, 2011 7:30

Wow, where did you get that photo from! :)

Damian Edwards

February 23, 2011 8:27

How come no mention of the future of UpdatePanel and AjaxControlToolkit?

Ray

February 23, 2011 21:58

Thanks for this interview! I'm still in a webforms evironement, trying to get us up to .Net 4. It's good to hear that WebForms is still a first class citizen.

Dillie-O

February 24, 2011 3:58

WebForms will always have its place in ASP.NET. I thought everybody was aware of this. Can we stop this dead argument?

Malcolm Sheridan

February 24, 2011 4:51

Good morning Mr. Hanselman, I'm just new to asp.net MVC and we have a project to generate a chart in a web page with the data in the table. My boss want it to be downloaded to excel including the chart image. we are having problem in including the chart image. We already search the net for any clue or idea how to download include the image but we couldn't find it. YOur help is very much appreciated.. thank you.

Rey

February 24, 2011 5:21

Rey - There's lots of ways. I googled and found many. There are many third party components that will let you create charts inside of an Excel Document, generated on the Server, then download them.

Scott Hanselman

February 24, 2011 9:15

Thank you for your feedback sir.. :-) I'm going to start a research now.

Rey

February 24, 2011 12:41

Rey - Cool. Let me know if you need more help.

Scott Hanselman

February 24, 2011 21:30

Great to hear one thing I don't hear much about is performance Google has added performance to their search criteria so the next big buzz for SEO is going to be preformance I have two sites one MVC it's faster than 94% fo the sites out there and a WebForms ecommerce site I reworte using CodeFirst repository pattern with dependancy injection and of course the always flexable Object data source it's faster than 80% of the sites out there the webforms site has alot more data base action than the MVC site and it has to load alot of pictures I have viewstate still turned on so I guess thats a plug for ASP.NET that seems to be going unnoticed

I would also like to plug EF CodeFirst I find for data access it's a no brain-er way to go team Microsoft

rickj1

February 25, 2011 2:13

Now I feel that the next version of the asp.net is not as magical as I thought, but I hope to see some cool new futures as you said. Of course they can't rethink from scratch that makes their work very difficult.

Thanks a lot scott.

Amir

February 27, 2011 23:10

Hi Scott, could you please provide some info about the next release of Webforms? When the next version will be launched?

Amit

February 28, 2011 1:40

I think ASP.Net/WebForms is dead.... Thankfully, MVC is now out and it's much, much better. The thing that killed ASP.Net/WebForms was its proprietary JavaScript library. Who has the time to study or write custom components? and a thousand different script managers? and the time to put ASP.Net/WebForms on a diet after they get bloated?

Truly, Scott, Microsoft should start deep sixing stuff!

lasco two o six

March 03, 2011 1:59

Hi Scott,

I love the podcasts. Really enjoy these and the developer's life podcasts.

I have to comment on the question that Scott asked about "programmer bigotry" at about 8 minutes.

Damien gave a great answer to your question. I work in a team of two developers, and I prefer ORM, MVC stuff. My co-worker she likes Webforms and Stored Procedures .. and we both have our reasons for our particular approach to these problems. What is quite funny is that it fits in with your bike/car analogy ... She drives a car I ride a bike.

I just found it very interesting how your comments mirrored exactly the discussions we have at work over the tea break.

Kind Regards

Luke

Luke Robbins

March 03, 2011 18:43

Hi Scott,

I am glad to hear web forms will be improved. Especially the Model Binding part.

I would like to share with you and ASP.NET team if possible what I did for web forms. Maybe you will feel it interesting. http://aspnetmvvm.codeplex.com

Regards,

yysun

Yiyi Sun

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